SLI: Chapter 4


“Good Company”

In this chapter, Moore offers for our consideration some men and women in the Old and New Testaments who exhibited insecurity.

Of people in the Old Testament, Moore profiles Eve, Hagar & Sarai, Leah & Rachel, Moses, and Saul.

Of people in the New Testament, Moore briefly mentions the disciples, the woman at the well, and Paul.

With the exception of a few people, Moore twists the scripture to make her points.  I’ll take each in turn:

Eve — Moore says, “The only real hint of insecurity I can find is her affinity for fig leaves…Insecurity often displays itself in a woman’s wardrobe, but who can blame Eve for grabbing the closest thing on a hangar?”

What does the Bible say about Eve and the fig leaves?  After explaining how Adam and Eve came to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it says, “Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked.  And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.  And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.  But the Lord God called to the man and said to him, ‘Where are you?’  And he said, ‘I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself’” (Genesis 3:7-10).

The Bible makes it clear that Eve wanted to cover herself because she felt SHAME.  Why was she ashamed?  Because of her SIN.  The magnitude of this event cannot go understated.  Moore makes light of it by focusing on Eve’s wardrobe and making it about insecurity.

I may even go so far as to make the case that Eve didn’t feel a hint of insecurity.  When she and Adam realized their nakedness, they set about sewing.  That is an act of pride = I can fix this; I can do it myself.

Sarai & Hagar — After a brief discussion of Sarai & Hagar’s ordeal, Moore talks about how perceived threats feed insecurities.  I thought this part was really interesting.  I liked a lot of what Moore brought out here: how Sarai’s barrenness caused her to feel insecure, how she acted on her insecurity and it caused her much pain.  I only wish Moore had connected Sarai’s actions to her lack of faith in God’s promise to produce an heir for Abram.  Instead, she goes on a wild tangent about swinging.  EW.

Leah & Rachel –  They win Moore’s award for Most Insecure Women in the Word.  Moore writes, “Nothing like thinking God doesn’t like you as well as He likes someone else to make you a smidge insecure.”  In a previous chapter, Moore talked about feeling like God’s best friend one day and not the next.  Does Beth Moore believe that God plays favorites?  Scripture is clear, “God does not show partiality” (Romans 2:11).  But Moore has implied it twice.

Moses — I think Moore was really reaching here and got a little sloppy.  Yes, Moses didn’t want to speak.  So, God gave him Aaron to speak for him.  The arrangement was that God would speak to Moses, Moses would speak to Aaron, and Aaron would speak to everyone else.  God led the Israelites out of Egypt with great signs and  wonders.  When they made it to Mt. Sinai, Moses went up on the mountain to talk with God and Aaron stayed on the ground with the people.  While Moses was on the mountain receiving the commandments, Aaron fashioned a golden calf for the people  to worship.  Now, Moore says this:

“Heaven knows how many people never fulfill their destinies simply because of their own insecurities.  God finally gave in to Moses’ request to have someone else talk for him, but lo and behold, Aaron was the very person who offered to fire up a golden calf from the wanderers’ jewelry (“I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!”) so the Israelites would have something to worship while Moses was delayed.  The kind of insecurity that makes us reluctant to believe and obey God not only leads us into sin, it also ends up dragging a few other people into it with us.”

Like I said, this is a sloppy paragraph.  I think she is teaching that Moses’ insecurity made him “reluctant to believe and obey God” which “led [him] to sin” and also ended up “dragging a few other people [Aaron and the Israelites] into it with [him].”  First of all, the scripture does not say that Moses sinned.  Exodus 4:13-14 says, “But he [Moses] said, ‘Oh, my Lord, please send someone else.’  Then the anger of the Lord was kindled against Moses and he said, ‘Is there not Aaron, your brother, the Levite?  I know that he can speak well…’”  Moses’ saying, “send someone else,” was not a sin.  Had Moses refused to obey God’s command to go to Egypt, then he would have been guilty of sin.  However, when Moses’ understood that the Lord’s anger was kindled against him, he obeyed.  By allowing Moses to understand His anger was kindled was the Lord’s way of telling Moses that (now that the command has gone out) he has a responsibility to obey God’s voice.  And did Moses obey?  Yes, he did.  God was not angry about using Aaron to speak for Moses.  Rather, God was being gracious to Moses by meeting his very real need for a mouthpiece.  God was helping Moses fulfill the purpose for which he was called.

Consider this scenario between my children and me as an analogy:  I tell my children to do something, they whine for a second, I remind them who I am (The Mom), and they hop to it.  Let’s suppose I tell my daughter to clean her room.  Well, she tells me that she doesn’t want to do it.  But I understand the reason is because the task is overwhelming to her.  I tell her she has to do it because, “I said so.”  Instead of shrinking back in disobedience, she asks me for help to accomplish the task I have given her.  And I am very happy to give her the help she needs because I want her to obey.

Secondly, Moses insecurity regarding his speech had absolutely nothing to do with Aaron’s crafting of a calf and leading the Israelites to worship it.  I don’t see how Moore can make that leap.

The first sentence of the paragraph is an emotional ploy and/or fear tactic rooted in Moore’s man-centered theology.  Moore writes, “Heaven knows how many people never fulfill their destinies simply because of their own insecurities.”  Hundreds of thousands of women will read that and think, “OH NO!  I’m going to miss my destiny, my whole purpose in life, if I don’t get over my insecurities!”  I submit to you that that statement is not true.  Not even our sin can thwart the plans and purposes of our Sovereign God.  He knows the end from the beginning.  Nothing surprises Him.  No thing about our lives, from beginning to end, can mess up the plan.  And He promises to complete the work He has begun in us.  Furthermore, he has planned from before the foundations of the earth the good works that we will do in His name for His eternal glory.   (Scriptures referenced here: Isaiah 44; Psalm 33; Ephesians 1; Philippians 1 and 2.)

So, Moses was insecure about his speech impediment. Did he fulfill his destiny? Absolutely! How did he do it? God provided what he needed to fulfill his calling.  How amazing is that?!

Saul — I’m not going to spend much time here, because Saul was straight-up paranoid, insecure, jealous, subject to fits of rage, mentally unstable.  Moore doesn’t say much about God in this section of Chapter 4 anyway.

The disciples –  Moore says that the fact that they were talking about who would be the greatest in the kingdom means that they were insecure because “the need to be considered the greatest is always rooted in the gnawing fear that we’re not.”  But the Bible doesn’t say anymore about it other than they were arguing about it.  It doesn’t say why and it’s best if we don’t offer conjectures.  The point that the scripture has in mentioning their dispute is for Jesus to have an opportunity to speak to what it means to be great in his kingdom; it means you serve, it means you’re like a child.  The story also underscores the fact that the disciples did not understand that Jesus was not going to usher in an earthly kingdom at that time.

The woman at the well — Moore writes that the woman had “married five losers” and was living with her sixth and that means she was waving a “red flag with the letters I-N-S-E-C-U-R-I-T-Y.”  The scriptures, however, do not say that she was insecure.  It doesn’t mention anything about what motivated the woman to marry five times and live with a sixth man.  She could have been an insecure woman, but we don’t know for certain because the scripture doesn’t say so.  And, once again, that isn’t the point of the passage anyway.

Paul — Moore says that Paul suffered from insecurity because he

“felt the need to affirm his credentials to the people he served in Corinth by using this little twist: ‘I do not think I am in the least inferior to those ‘super-apostles.’  I may not be a trained speaker, but I do have knowledge’ (2 Cor. 11:5-6).  Tell me that’s not insecurity.  If you’re not convinced, take a look at what blurted from his pen only a chapter later: ‘I have made a fool of myself, but you drove me to it.  I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the ‘super-apostles,’ even though I am nothing’ (2 Cor. 12:11).  Do you think just maybe he protests too much?  In all probability, he fought the awful feeling that he wasn’t as good as the others who hadn’t done nearly so much wrong.  I totally grasp that.  At the same time, Paul also battled a big, fat ego. He was a complex mound of clay just like the rest of us, belittling and boasting in himself in a dizzying psychological zigzag.  The beauty of Paul wasn’t his superhumanity but his unwillingness to let his weaknesses, feelings, and fears override his faith.  Like us, the fiercest enemy he had to fight in the fulfillment of his destiny was himself.”

All you have to do is open your Bible to 2 Corinthians 11 and 12.  Read both chapters to get the context and you will see that Paul was not writing those words because he was insecure.  Not in the least.  As a matter of fact, the very opposite is true.  The church at Corinth had a problem with false teachers who were tearing down Paul.  The church at Corinth had put him in the position of having to defend his apostleship to them.  He didn’t want to write those things, he thought it foolish to boast in such a way (like their false teachers were doing), but he did it anyway because of his great love for them.  He didn’t want to see the believers be led astray by bold, charismatic teachers who were preaching a gospel different from the one he delivered to them.  Moore flagrantly twists the scripture and accuses Paul of “boasting in himself in a dizzying psychological zigzag.”  Be like a Berean: Read both chapters and see for yourself if what she writes is true.

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22 Responses to SLI: Chapter 4

  1. Julia says:

    I have read this and to be honest….I am OUT! I want to say this as delicately as I can. I truly am getting the idea that you twist the scriptures to fit your Calvinist beliefs.

    I do not need you to totally agree with me and I really do love to hear and learn from others. But, I find myself growing increasingly frustrated with your attack on an author that for some reason, upsets you.

    You have said “Most women, when they find out I don’t LOVE Beth Moore Bible studies, shun me. no joke :( It’s like I don’t love Jesus.” I can honestly say, I went into this with a very open mind. I don’t think that women are “shunning” you because you “do not LOVE Beth Moore Bible Studies” I think that more than likely, they feel as I do, that this is wasted time to nitpick and look for something, ANYTHING, to dispute this woman.

    I want to leave you with a thought…..What have you done to reach others for Christ? I am not saying that you need a platform as big as the one that Beth Moore finds herself on. I am thankful to be a christian…but I have to say, if I were not one and I came across your blog…it would truly turn me off to God.

    I wish you well in whatever it is you are attempting here. I will keep you in my prayers. But I cannot in good faith, continue to read something that is so bent on picking apart something that has meant so much to me.

    God Bless!

    • I’m sorry to read this. I have tried to be as fair as possible — pointing out what I think is good and explaining what I think is wrong. I am not tearing down Beth Moore the person; I want women to be more discerning about what they read. The problem, however, is that many women who do Moore’s studies do not want the truth — they want Beth Moore. And your response, to forsake the truth because what Moore has written means so much to you, is one example among thousands.

    • Chrissa Canales says:

      “I truly am getting the idea that you twist the scriptures to fit your Calvinist beliefs.”

      This really says it all.

      Leslie set out to, and accomplished IMO, to provide a toughtful critique of the teaching of a woman that has been all but canonized by a large number of professing Christians. This is needed and I thank Leslie for the courage to do it. So…from where did this attack on her “Calvinist beliefs” arise? Especially considering that it came from someone who just accused someone else of “attacking” a person who has offered herself as a teacher.

      “…so bent on picking apart something that has meant so much to me.”

      Please, Julia, go back and read your other contributions to this series. The “me-centeredness” is inescapable, and from what I have experienced, emblematic of Beth Moore disciples. Might be worth some self-reflection.

  2. Kim in On says:

    Julie, why don’t you counter Southernbaptist Girl’s views with some of your own positions, so that others can understand your disagreement with her? If you think she is “twisting” the Scriptures, why don’t you correct her?

    Southern Baptist Girl: I have to admit when I saw that she mentioned Saul, my first thought was, “He was a nut job.” And when I saw the name Paul mentioned, I thought, “You’ve got to be kidding.”

  3. Kim in On says:

    Also, in my experience with blogging about Beth Moore, I found that most people who really disagreed with me on my blog didn’t leave an e-mail address or any way to contact them. Interesting.

  4. Swinging? Really?

    Paul? For real?

  5. Tess says:

    Julie,

    Totally agree with you. SBgirl is only coming across as a bitter dare I say insecure “girl”. Of course she’s not the only Calvinist on the web to consider herself to be infallible in her interpretation of the scriptures.

    • Kim in On says:

      Tess, could you provide me with some examples of Calvinists who say they are infallible? I’d like to know who they are.

      Your comments are a classic example of an ad hominem attack. Stick to the content of her arguments, and put aside your personal offense.

  6. SBG says:

    I bet if any of you actually read Calvin, you’d agree with him more often than not. This really has zero to do with John Calvin. To use that label as a reason to discredit me is pretty laughable. I didn’t make any claims in this post that someone who adhered to sound exegesis wouldn’t make.

    What I would appreciate is if anyone could defend Moore’s statements based on the scripture alone rather than personal experience.

  7. Southernbaptistgirl: I like what you have written here. I agree with what you have written here. Good observations.

  8. Gayla says:

    SBG, Keep up the good work! Just finished reading all your posts on SLI. You were reasonable, fair, and balanced. I don’t understand why so many women glom onto B.M. and others, like her – for example, Joyce Meyer. It seems that women, all too often, get swept up in the emotionalism and the ‘cult of personality’ that so characterizes the style of of authors/speakers such as these two.

    The above comment by Julia so typifies the responses I see over and over again on blogs or on FB, by women who jump to the defense of a flawed human being rather than really study to see how what they espouse aligns with revealed truth in Scripture. I dares say that God can, and does, use ANY means He so deems fit to draw His own to Himself – even something Beth or Joyce or even Benny Hinn might say. That doesn’t negate the fact that many (most) of what they ‘preach’ is contrary to what the Scriptures teach – and that these people are in sin who ‘preach another gospel.’

    Since God opened my eyes to His absolute sovereignty 41/2 years ago, I have come to learn that I must be a Berean, and no matter what ANYone says, I take it to the Word of God to see if it indeed agrees with what God has already revealed.

    God bless you, sister, in your endeavors!

  9. Mark says:

    Well…how about a Lutheran review?

    Besides, I did not see Calvinism in these reviews. I saw appeal to the biblical text. A similar manner of critiquing whether or not a teaching is biblical can be found in Acts 17:11.

    I appreciate these reviews. They interacted with the material itself and it would be nice to see those who disagree interact in the same manner. I’m reminded of the quote below.

    “When we confuse the fruit of the gospel in the Christian life for the gospel itself, hermeneutical confusion is introduced. The focus easily turns to the life of the believer and the experience of the Christian life. These can then become the norms by which Scripture is interpreted. Instead of interpreting our experience by the word, we start to interpret the word by our experience.” — Graeme Goldsworthy, Gospel-Centered Hermeneutics, p. 59

    • Thanks for adding that link, Mark. I listened to all of it a few days ago and was really surprised that she’s able to get away with teaching that way without anyone on her board or at LifeToday or LifeWay calling her on it. Great quote!

  10. Lydia says:

    A Free Will believer who studies the Word would be outraged by Beth Moore’s twisting of even her proof texts!

  11. Lydia says:

    ” listened to all of it a few days ago and was really surprised that she’s able to get away with teaching that way without anyone on her board or at LifeToday or LifeWay calling her on it. ”

    Follow the money. She is Lifeway’s hottest ticket.

  12. Lydia says:

    “Well, in the Patriarchs book, Moore had Sarai asking Abram, when they were told to leave Ur, whether or not she could take her beaded purse.”

    Wasn’t there also some question about what you would take as a gift to Sarah’s baby shower?

    The woman is also silly. But shallow sells well

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  14. jody says:

    I jumped on the net to find more insight on ch 4. I found this site to be highly critical of the book. It made me sad that one would spend her time finding fault.

  15. C M M says:

    Jody,
    SouthernBaptistGirl is not idly “finding fault.” She is examining this book to see how well what it says matches up to God’s Word, the ultimate truth. And just because it is not measuring up does not mean that she is attacking it and being unfairly critical. This is what EVERYBODY should be doing when we read a book by a Christian author. Sadly, often we do not, either because we are (a) lazy, or (b) because we lack knowledge about the Scriptures.

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